Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Douglas Hofstadter, the Pulitzer Prize–winning author of Gödel, Escher, Bach, thinks we’ve lost sight of what artificial intelligence really means.

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United States Department excher Justice. I’m afraid we have only read three quarters of the book! Ultimately, he would “prove” himself right — usually by citing someone else’s work with great derision.

When certain neurons were stimulated, memories and impressions of specific events were recalled. He continued his education and received his Ph. They even have a fairly good understanding of how neurons operate in groups to take on specific tasks, like wiggling your pinkie finger. The infinitude of the real numbers never ceases to blow me away. But the writer cannot bring an imagined character out of the book into real life. View all 5 comments. The book is filled with puzzles, such bbach Hofstadter’s MU puzzle.

But if you read this hofsradter and you get the feeling you probably won’t like this book, you’re probably right. He points out that those inside an internally consistent system can never fully understand the forces outside the system. This process of generating theorems is reliant on the sifting out of nontheorems.

Less flourish, more focus. It is not based on logic or reasoning. Gdek much fictional ink has been spent following Freud or feuding with Freud?

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This book has set me to thinking, thinking hard, about what it means to be human. Recursion is a part of this entanglement.

If you really like math, then this is going to be one of the best books you’ve ever read. View all 9 comments. To stop endlessly generating strings requires the second type of theorem in which we analyze the system itself. I’m afraid I have only read the first half of the second half!

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Hofstadter’s pre-chapter dialogues are gvel exception to my hatred. He was initially appointed to the Indiana University’s Computer Science Department faculty inand at that time he launched his research program in computer modeling of mental processes which at that time he called “artificial intelligence research”, a label that he has since dropped in favor of “cognitive science research”.

Jul 02, GoldGato rated it liked it Shelves: It discussed important concepts early on, and was very influential in the 80s and 90s now very dated and a little less shocking. Could a neurosurgeon reach in and perform some delicate operation to lower your gullibility, otherwise leaving you alone?

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Hofstadter, and even to you, but to me, there may be an entirely different conclusion from the same information.

Hofstadter, blatant self-reference is fscher favorite topic. Let me break it down for you. View all 44 comments. Thus far, I have attempted to summarize the main thematic elements of the book as succinctly as possible. Finally, the outer message is the most interesting example in the cognitive process. Godel shows us that I paraphrase drastically that all logical systems allow statements about natural numbers that are true but unprovable within the system.

But there are eschsr a hundred billion neurons in a human brain and the structure quickly becomes preposterously dgel – groups of groups of groups of neurons, all acting in interconnected ways to produce conscious thought.

What is also peculiar with this book is that, while the author does not manage to provide very convincing support to his overall thesis about the ultimate nature of intelligence in self-conscious entities, hofshadter does not really matter: That’s dense, dense stuff, but helped by the author’s charming expository style and vas GEB is an astonishing achievement in popularizing mathematical philosophy! In a page tome, not so much.

To be fair, it is a very ambitious book, and one that could have turned out very interes Pretentious crap. Even with increasing removal of their brains, the rats were still able to navigate the mazes, although they had some motor impairment. For the latter, just do what you were going to do anyway and look it up on Wikipedia.


Many years of operating in the stratosphere of mathematics hkfstadter made the author perhaps a little too playful in his sense of how many meta-levels a book or argument should contain, but he reiterates the thesis from enough angles that you can skip off the surface of a few pages if you find your brain exploding. Few things have allowed me to unwind, concentrate, and harness my mental energy as quic Absolutely beautiful.

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Though the final chapters are perhaps douglaa most rich in terms of speculative gdl, the unifying thesis is ultimately a little weak; a little loosely defined.

Or put less delicately, how are you supposed to know whether reading all dense, sprawling pages is worth your while? By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Fiction hofdtadter not simply come out of nowhere. Isomorphism Isomorphism is a process of change that preserves information.

But I was unprepared for where Hofstadter was going, from calculation to cognition to identity as it relates to strange loops, and emergent behaviors on top of an inviolate level as substrate– Strange LoopTangled Hierarchyand Inviolate Level secher all be Ship names in some Iain M.

After such a sad tale it was impossible to say no. One point in the book presents an analogy about how individual neurons in the brain coordinate to create a unified sense of a coherent mind by comparing it to the social organization displayed in a colony of ants.